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Olivia Character Sheet by RickGriffin Olivia Character Sheet by RickGriffin
If you hadn't caught this character when I was doing prework on A&H club, here's her character sheet now. There's a few things that are incorrect--I think the proper way of writing the surname is with a lowercase "van der", and I'm not actually certain she's a landlord per se (more of a building manager? Or something) but in any case, here she is
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lxblack Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
the pouch would work if only the opening was upside down. Perhaps there's a ledge inside.
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Smeapancol Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
How can she be an objectivist and a religion-hopper? Objectivists are atheists.
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Red-Savage Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
Objectivism and Atheism are two completely different schools of though (philosophy and religion).
Just figured I might mention that.
You familiar with Ayn Rand's thoughts on it all?
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Smeapancol Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
I've read all of Ayn Rand's novels. Ayn Rand was an atheist and considered it as essential part of her philosophy.

Philosophy and religion are not schools of thought; they are subjects. Schools of thought refers to the ideas of a group with a common methodology or academic agenda. Furthermore, religion is included in philosophy, so that means philosophy can have plenty to say on it. Also, atheism is not a religion, it's a lack of belief in god. Atheism can be a tenant or conclusion of a philosophy, and that is what it is in objectivism.
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Red-Savage Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2014
Ah cool I've been thinking about reading those.

:B

I just wanted to interrupt your tangent for a moment. More to the point, I'm just curious as to why the large effort to make the point about a character that's still in its early stages. Not in any derogatory way. Just curiosity. Are these concepts of atheism and objectivism so intertwined that there is no leeway? Also, how deep of a self identifying aspect are these concepts to certain individuals--or is it all or nothing?
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RickGriffin Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If you think objectivists are atheists, you don't know many objectivists
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Smeapancol Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
Objectivism is very anti-religion. Is there some school of objectivism I don't know about that thinks religion is ok?
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RickGriffin Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Basically half of the arguments I've seen for objectivism are various reasons why it is not incompatible with religion. It's not the purist perspective but it is the one that tends to have more political sway so they don't alienate other right-wing perspectives.
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Smeapancol Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2014
I think you have a biased sample, because you also just called objectivists right-wing. They're libertarian, not right-wing. If you've only met objectivists who are trying to get in bed with republicans, then that would explain why they would be soft on religion. Normally objectivists are strongly anti-religion.
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Chrinik Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014
Okay, you think about it too hard...
Are Objectivists BORN that way? No they aren´t. If she is a religion hopper, how can you be so sure she didn´t try all of these religions BEFORE settleing for Objectivism...I mean, one of the last ones is Agnosticism, basically the "meh, who cares?" answer, it´s only a small step to atheism anyway. And with no listed religion, other then the habbit of having tried alot, I could see it as a past experience before settleing down with what is stated.
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Smeapancol Featured By Owner Jul 7, 2014
It's usually possible to come up with some circumstance to reconcile apparently contradictory information. For example, people sometimes go around saying that the Bible is 100% true even given that the different gospels give very different accounts of major events in Jesus's life. It's possible to invent stories that resolve the contradiction. Or for another example, people have come up with circumstances to explain the reason that Han Solo could have been said to have done the Kessel Run in 12 parsecs, which on the face of it appears to be merely an error on the part of the writers. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Kessel…

My point is that there is something here that requires an explanation and is probably an example of bad research on the part of the author, not that it is an absolutely irreconcilable contradiction. 
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S-M-Batty Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Is she and Hildegarde... 'Together'?
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Carolzilla Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
The thylacine's pouch was 'upside-down' because it was on their crotch and not exactly on their belly, and they were quadrupeds.

So if they were to be turned into biped, their pouch would probably evolvo too be more like from a Kangaroo's to be able to carry their babies, in her case she probably have some defect or something lawl but nice character design, it stays true to most of the Thylacine's traits
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Northern-Megas Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014
Upside down pouch? I am guessing that is some sort of birth defect.
Or was that normal with the actual Thylacine? :?
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RickGriffin Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That's normal for a thylacine thylacine.psu.edu/pics/thylaci…
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I want to see her yawn, show off that awesome big mouth
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wolfian Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Dat pouch! Gimme kiss
Also, is the underside of her foot in shadow or would those be her paw-pads?
Really enjoying this comic! Thanks.
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FatPaws Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
would you like to enter my 100 points contest? i really loved your style
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JZLobo Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
You're kidding, right?

Firstly, it's EXTREMELY RUDE to promote your journals/raffles/etc. under other peoples' artwork. This page is for commenting about THEIR work, not hijacking it to promote yourself.

Secondly, he's a professional artist. What use would he have for your measly $1.25 that can only be spent on this site?
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FatPaws Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
ok sorry =/ *rolls away*
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A3Kitsune Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Nice.
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hillbillyinablimp Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student General Artist
She seems friendly.
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TygerStryke Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Building super intendant, perhaps?
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RickGriffin Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Probably more like that yes
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DocFlareon Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Thylacines did indeed have a rear-opening pouch.  It is also true that marsupial ladies' pouches have a sphincter muscle to prevent accidents with their joeys.  The pouch is where they keep their mammary glands, so neither the 'roo or thylacine should have anything resembling human-style breasts, but I'm guessing "Artist's Privileges" have been declared in this matter.
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OliveRdragon Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nice Character!

PS: Love her Name :D
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D-Rock92 Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I've heard that marsupials have a muscle for their pouches to essentially close them. Maybe it'll work if that's implemented? So will there be other extinct species as characters?
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Xarcht Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Hmm, I sup[pose as a quadraped the backwards pouch is good. Vertical, maybe not so good. Could be old genetic baggage that will vanish or invert.
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Thalateya Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
I saw this in my messages and instantly suspected this lady would be in Hidle's apartment...

Love her design, by the way, thylacines are really underrated. Those stripes look amazing.
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Combak Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
Building manager is probably the right term. Say something if you want to talk to someone who does what I think she does. I know a guy.

It probably is "van der". Source: Van der Waals forces in chemistry.

Also, this is ironic considering my comment on the newest page (Page 5 I think.) I thought she looked like a Thylacine, but I didn't think you would use extinct animals.
Pretty sure the pouch works better when on four le. ;p
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gameboysage Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014
I'm sure the upside down pouch thing works a lot more when you walk on all fours rather then on two feet XD
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Alyrine Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Question, dont mean to be rude, but why are most of them lesbians?
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RickGriffin Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well there wouldn't be much point in a lesbian character romancing a non-lesbian, so you're going to have at minimum two lesbians
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Alyrine Featured By Owner Mar 29, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Ah! Alright, Just wanted to know :P
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